
Morus' Denver diary over on PBC has an interview with Chris Rennard and Ed Davey. One of Morus' questions was the fundamental question Lib Dem activists up and down the country: what are our two battleground issues (or in other words, what is our USP)? Rennard's answer is that we neither have issues nor a USP. Its truly a breathetakingly depressing answer. Apparantly the next election will be about the "stresses" in people's lives and how we can alleviate them. Sound familiar? Sound pretty bloody far from unique. The other two parties are running on variations on the theme of "strugling"/"hardworking" etc. We should not enter into a competition for who can be the for managerialist and say the word hard pressed in a sentence and make it sound meaningful. Our response to the current economic, and therefore political, climate should be about freedom. Removing barriers in people's lives, thereby increasing people's freedom over their own lives. This means removing State interfearence where possible, scaling back the nanny state, scaling back dramatically the overseer state (civil liberties), decreasing the tax burden for all those under the median income, increasing access to the levers of capitalism enjoyed by companies, incentivising liberal company and market formations not corporatist or hierarchical ones, allowing greater choice into education, moving towards cash transfers to replace some benefits, and .... you get the idea.
This is a, liberal; b, has a narrative; c, distinctive; d, honest about the limits of what government can effectively do; e, reframes the debate in a manner that we can engage with, away from Tory and Labour comfort zones.
Rennard's strategy as outlined leaves us nowhere, nothing but a pale imitation of the other two parties but with a penchant for civil liberties, more pro-european, and saner on immigration. Let the other two parties scrabble around mumbling Brent-speak. We can and must do much better.
Thursday, 28 August 2008
USP, Rennard, and other managerialist meaningless crap
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All depressingly familiar...
I bet some focus groups came up with that one.
And how will we alleviate such 'stresses'? Almost certainly by state action.
You suggest something liberal. Unfortunately that's 'Orange Book' talk and will upset the state socialists (aka Social Democrats or Democratic Socialists) in the party and be a bit scary...
Quite.
Remove stresses over bread prices. How? Price capping? Its just meaningless bunk. Self defeating meaningless bunk. No wonder we're getting approximately zero media exposure at the moment and are, at absolute best, treading water. We're aping Labour aping the Tories. If this is the drive for the centre ground I wish to be thrown to outer space.
Hear hear.
As weak as anecdotal evidence might be, I have yet to meet a "normal" voter who has any coherent idea what LDs stand for. When they hear my views they (or at least the more astute) say something along the lines of "but the Lib Dems are more socialist than that, aren't they?".
Until we have a coherent, liberal narrative, people will simply see us as a kind of left-leaning, smaller party that occasionally looks sensible when compared to the Cons-Labour mentalists, but who "will never get in".
Yes, but we can organise some pointless petitions against post office closures !!!
"...incentivising liberal company and market formations not corporatist or hierarchical ones..."
Hmmm... that doesn't sound particularly 'small liberal' to me.
Tristan: "Unfortunately that's 'Orange Book' talk and will upset the state socialists (aka Social Democrats or Democratic Socialists) in the party and be a bit scary."
The distinction between the 'left' and 'right' wings of the party is a minor one and really has to do with to what extent we want the private sector involved in providing public services. The people 'we' don't want to alienate are all the old labour voters who have defected to us as 'the most left wing party'. I say screw 'em. If we're not liberal we're nothing. We're the only party that has a coherent ideology and we refuse to capitalise on it.
The thing that's always surprised me is that liberals are portrayed in the media as 'wishy washy'. In political philosophy, liberalism is the hard headed, serious position while to advocate conservatism requires you to hem and haw and talk about aesthetics (case in point: Roger Scruton's A Political Philosophy discusses poetry as much as it discusses politics). It's rather jarring to have to switch between the two worlds all the time.
Anywise, the reason I came here was that you (James) wrote on Irfan's blog: "Unfortunately the chances of us being the third largest party, especially in terms of seats, after the next election is very slim indeed." - What do you mean by that?
Anonymous,
What isn't small l liberal about "...incentivising liberal company and market formations not corporatist or hierarchical ones..."?
Also, I meant second, not third. Sorry.
This kind of thing makes me tear my hair out.
It's just not good enough to complain about Rennard's generalities in generalities yourself.
I don't want a USP, I want a full programme and a coherent policy agenda.
I want our party to be distinctive and have several core reforms which we can clearly transmit at any particular time as symbolic of our thinking. But we have to be able to say everything matters and that we want everything to be better. Nothing less: there are no excuses.
I don't particularly care for petty squabbles amongst ourselves - I want a full, frank and vigorous debate on the details of specific policies in every area.
If we know that we are liberal democrats then as Liberal Democrats we can provide the solutions to ongoing problems by applying our critique.
So if you'd like to choose a topic of concern to you let's get on with it and reach agreement.
Where would you like to start: Big issues? Little issues? Controversial issues? What's missing? What's superfluous? What's obsolete?
Don't hold back now!
Fair enough Oranjepan, as long as you promise to comment, debate, and argue with me and anyone else who cares to. I don't know what issue to start with so you can help.
Either I'll take a current Lib Dem policy and critique it, hopefully creating debate, or I'll take a current Tory/Labour policy and critique it demonstrating what we should do, or I'll just take my own initiative. Which do you prefer?
If its my own initiative then I'll give you an option of three topics to start with: a, PR; b, foreign polciy; c, welfare reform. What do you fancy?
Hmm, of the three I think foreign policy provides the widest scope for debate, so I'd start there.
The most impressive line I've caught recently was during the Dem's convention and came from Bill Clinton on regaining leadership in this area. He said respect came 'not from the example of our power, but the power of our example'. That's quite profound.
Comparing policy towards South Ossetia with Kosovo has been said to highlight hypocrisy on behalf of the west - do you agree?
Guys,
I think you're conflating narrative with policy here; and also narrative with ideology. go and have a read of Neil Stockley's blog and you should start to get a better feel of what a narrative actually is...
Anyhow, I actually came on here James to have a chat with you about your Who's Who entry. Can you email me at info at whoswholibdems dot org dot uk?
Thanks,
Jo
Oranjepan,
I'm just about to write another post about Georgia. Lets start from there.
Clinton's line is saccharine crap, and untrue. Bush's FP is a continuation of Clinton's, which is a continuation of Bush 41's, which in turn is Reagan ... you get the idea.
OK, good.
But 'saccharine crap, and untrue'?
Maybe there is some disconnect between his words of today and his policies of yesterday, but the quote has emminent origins which are fundamentally in line with liberal democracy and it is therefore completely understandable why a politician would like to appropriate such good rhetoric to support his popular platform.
So, don't confuse my liking for the words with any liking for the man.
Fair enough. I've a new post on Georgia accession to NATO and one on propping up the housing market you may like to comment on (please).
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